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1 Feb 2001: Again I am at a dead end, with no apparent Snaith Families in the Parish of Sand Hutton, or round about, though I probably coud do with searching again a bit more thoroughly.
John was a Farmer at the time of his daughters marriage.
!In the 1881 Census he was living at White Hall Farm, Osmotherley, and was farming an area of 90 Acres. His son John was also living with his parents and was unmarried at the time.
!1881 Census:
Dwelling: White Hall Farm
Census Place: Osmotherley, York, England
Source: FHL Film 1342172 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 4869 Folio 24 Page 2
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
John PICKERSGILL M 73 M Busby Stoop, York, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Farmer Of 90 Acres
Bridget PICKERSGILL M 68 F Kirby Knowle, York, England
Rel: Wife
John PICKERSGILL U 33 M Brompton, York, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Farm Labourer
She was alive in April 1881 when the census was taken. She was '68' at the time.
!REF: RG11 4869 24 2
Cannot as yet identify robert on the 1881 Census. Perhaps he had died before it was taken.
1881 Census: White Hall Farm, Osmotherley. RG11 4869 24 2
!John was unmarried at the time, and was supposedly 33 years old.
1 Feb 2001: The only Simon Pickersgill I can find was Christened in London, and was the son of Simon Pickersgill. I have no proof however that he came up from London, but it is currently the only evidence that I have.
Thomas was a Labourer.
!there are two Thomas's born to parents of the same name (hence they could be the same people), but seeing as there are two to choose from, I am picking the later of the two, as the first one may have died young, though I am not sure yet. The 1851 Census suggested that Thomas was born in Thornton Le Moor, in 1797. I think that Thornton Le Moor comes in the parish boundaries of North Otterington, but I am not sure.
He was alive in 1851
the following email was received 3 Oct 2004
I believe that John Bell born 1825 married Margaret Thornton who was born in Holme near Pickhill just a few miles from Dalton. They had a daughter Frances H born 1869 and a daughter Annie M born 1871. They had a son named Joseph born 1874 and John Myers Bell born 1877, died aged 19 1897. Margaret (Thornton) Bell died 1894.
On the 1881 census John is an agricultural labourer. On the 1891 he is a bricklayer.
Kind regards
Lyn Thornton~Lyn_thornton@hotmail.com
I think i have need to make a correction to this Thomas Bell. He cannot be having a child when he is 16 years old, it just was not done back then. I still think Thomas is the father of Thomas Bell born 1799 at North Otterington, but it could be that Thomas Snr is not the son of William Bell, though the name does run in the family. So, I need to do some more research on this!
I need to check the original records to take this line further back, especially to look for the marriage of Thomas and Elizabeth.
John was a Gardener
Notes from Jean Outhwaite: Henry Turner was a farmer He was christened in the Coltsgate Hill Wesleyan Methodist, Ripon, Yorkshire on the 23 November 1821, having been born on the 10 November 1821, probably in Dishforth, Yorkshire.He was on the 1851census in Dishforth. He was on the 1861census in Dishforth. He was on the 1871census in Dishforth.
Letters of Administration were granted on 6 November 1876 at York.
Great Great Grandmother of Jean Outhwaite.
Hannah Clark was on the 1841census in Over Silton, Yorkshire. She married Henry Turner on the 28 June 1856 in the parish church at Topcliff, Yorkshire. This was in the Malton Messenger. She was on the 1861census at Dishforth. She was on the 1871 census in Dishforth, Yorkshire. She was the official informant of the death of Henry Turner on 10 October 1876 at Dishforth. She appeared on the 1881census in Dishforth. In 1898 she was living at 8 Lawrence Street, Darlington and is described as a grocer. She was on the 1901 census at 2 Dickinson Street, Darlington, living with her daughter SelinaHenry Turner was a farmer He was christened in the Coltsgate Hill Wesleyan Methodist, Ripon, Yorkshire on the 23 November 1821, having been born on the 10 November 1821, probably in Dishforth, Yorkshire.He was on the 1851census in Dishforth. He was on the 1861census in Dishforth. He was on the 1871census in Dishforth, . He died on 10 October in Dishforth, at age 54. Henry died of dropsy which he suffered from for 14 days. He was buried on 12 October 1876 at Parish Church, Topcliffe. Letters of Administration were granted on 6 November 1876 at York.
His father was Richard Turner. His Mother was Elizabeth Prince, both from Dishforth.Hannah and Henry had seven children that survived
Jane Elizabeth Turner b 12 July 1855 in Dishforth. She married Edwin Lupton on the 23 October 1877, in Topcliff. She was on the 1861census in Dishforth. She was on the 1871census in Dishforth She was on the 1881census in Dishforth. She was on the 1901 census living at 5 & 6 St John's Place, Darlington.
Children of Jane Elizabeth Turner and Edwin Lupton:
William Henry Lupton (1 Dec 1880 - ) Ethel May Lupton (23 Jun 1883 - ) Hilda Lupton (17 Apr 1887 - ) Mabel Lupton (22 Jul 1889 - ) Clive Lupton (17 Feb 1904 - )Elizabeth Turner (aka Liza) was born 30 October 1858 in Dishforth She died 12 November 1900 in 19, Lawrence Street, Darlington. She married Horatio Twedell Taylor on the 21 September 1880 in Darlington. (St John's. Corner of Yarm Road and Neasham Road). On 21 September 1880 she lived in the North Eastern Hotel, Darlington. She was on the 1861 census in Dishforth. She was on the 1871census in Dishforth. She was on the 1881census at 37 Bright Street, Darlington She was on the 1901census at 19 Lawrence Street, Darlington, Co Durham
Children of Eliza Turner and Horatio Tweddell Taylor:
Edna Taylor (19 Dec 1880 - 1 Jul 1972) Horatio Turner Taylor (1 Aug 1885 - b 15 Mar 1921) Percy Taylor (4 Oct 1889 - 25 Jan 1978) Lawrence Taylor (27 Jun 1891 - 25 Jan 1949) Harold Taylor (b 1 Apr 1899 - )George Turner was born on 23 December 1860, my family bible says the 24th but his birth certificate says the 23rd. He married Clara Mallorie on the 9 March 1886in the Parish Church, Adel, Yorkshire. He was on the 1861census of in Dishforth. He was on the 1871census in, Dishforth. He was on the 1881 census of in Dishforth. He lived at Arthington, Yorkshire, on 9 March 1886. He was a farm foreman on 9 March 1886. Children of George Turner and Clara Mallorie:
Ethel J Turner (1889 - ) Percy M Turner (1892 - ) Elsie C Turner (1900 - )Ellen Turner was born on 16 February 1863 at Dishforth. She was christened on 10 March 1863 in the Parish Church, Topcliff, . She was on the 1871census in Dishforth.. She was on the 1881 census in Thirsk, Yorkshire. My great Aunt Lil had a story about my sister falling with a brush in her hand and nearly braining her Aunt Ellen. This must have been c 1953-55.
Annie Turner was born on 6 October 1865 at Dishforth. She was on the 1871 census in Dishforth.. She was on the 1881census in Dishforth. She lived at 2 Lawrence Street, Darlington, Co Durham, on 21 August 1888.She married Thomas Outhwaite on 21 August 1888 at St. John's Parish Church, Darlington. She was on the 1901 census at 6 Dickinson Street, Darlington, which was the family home until her death. . She brought up grandson, Harold Outhwaite, after his mother deserted him when he was six months old. According to my father she was a tough old lady. his headmaster used to take him home so his granny could cane him. She took him with her to feed the Jarrow marchers as they came through Darlington.
Clara Turner was born in Dishforth on 15 january 1868. She was on the 1871 census in Dishforth. She was on the 1881 census at Dishforth. On the 23 June 1896 she married John Kitching. In the 1901 census they were living at 51 Windsor Avenue, Gateshead. Again Aunt Lil Talked Of Aunty Clara so she returned to Darlington in the 1950s. Clara had two children. Nora (b 1 Apr 1898 - 17 Jan 1986) and Horace (a 31 Mar 1901 - b 1984). They lived together and had a newsagents shop in Victoria Road, Darlington.
Selina Turner (Aunty Lena) was born on 21 July 1874 in Dishforth. She appeared on the census of 3 April 1881 at Dishforth. She was on the 1901census at 2 Dickinson Street, Darlington. She was there when my sister tried to brain Aunt Ellen according to Great Aunt Lil's Story.
Annie Turner and Thomas Outhwaite had four children.Maude Outhwaite
Great Aunt Maude (14 Aug 1887 - b 1984), who married a Fitzwilliam and had two children. She was on the 1901 census at 6 Dickinson Street, Darlington. They lived near Doncaster. I remember her as a very old lady with bright ginger hair.Lilian Outhwaite.
Great Aunt Lil (b 1st April 1892 - 27 Feb 1986). She was married three times. One was called Thomas and her last was Bill MacArthur. She was on the 1901 census at 6 Dickinson Street. She died in Greenbank Hospital from complications arising from a fractured hip. She lived most of her life in Dickinson Street, moving into number 8 when first married. She was living in Ashleigh House, Neasham Road when she broke her hip.~Evelyn Outhwaite
Great Aunt Ev (21 Jun 1906 - a 1989)( sorry I went to her funeral but cannot remember the date.) She married a Charles Smith, who worked in the ship yards. Great Aunt Ev lived in Monkseaton, Whitley Bay and in her eighties she and her friend Peggy used to do concert parties to entertain the ‘old folk’. Her son Leonard lives in Newcastle.Bertie Outhwaite
Bertie (26 November 1902 - 7 January 1964) was my Grandfather. He married Ester Terry who ran away when my father was six months old. She later remarried so there must have been a divorce but I can find no family papers relating to it. We went to see her as young children but she wanted nothing to do with us. Bertie was a Steel dresser but had chest problems so when I remember him he was a cloak room attendant. He died of broncho-pneumonia.~Bertie had a son Harold (my father) b 4 October 1923 in Sheriton Street (no 28) Darlington. He died 9th March 2001 and was cremated on March 13th. He married Margaret Dawson in Easington (Civil ceremony) on 24th December 1949. I was born in 1951 and my sister in 1952 (6 Dickinson Street Darlington)
~Peggy Dawson was born on the 28th May 1925. Her father was Herbert Dawson and her mother Jane (aka Ginny) ( Cruddace), She died in 1987 ( May 13th) in Darlington Memorial Hospital. She had serious chest infections and an enlarged heart. She was cremated on the 21st May.
Notes from JEan Outhwaite:
She was on the 1871census in Dishforth.. She was on the 1881 census in Thirsk, Yorkshire. My great Aunt Lil had a story about my sister falling with a brush in her hand and nearly braining her Aunt Ellen. This must have been c 1953-55.
Notes from Jean Outhwaite:
She appeared on the census of 3 April 1881 at Dishforth. She was on the 1901census at 2 Dickinson Street, Darlington. She was there when my sister tried to brain Aunt Ellen according to Great Aunt Lil's Story.
The age at death of 81 years suggests a birth date of 1733. Perhaps I need to look and see if there are any other possible candidates for his Christening.
Hannah was 75 yrs old when she died.
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