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Her work does not appear to be done, neitherthat of her Brother DAvid W Gibson
I found the Following on the 1891 Census for York:
2 Simpson Yard, Walgate, York:
Caulfield, Elizabeth Widow, 77, Seamstress. Born Pocklington.
!Caulfield, James, Grandson, 12, Scholar, Born York.Evidently from these two Census Entries, we can garner that there was at least one other child to Thomas and Elzabeth, who married and had children :)
I cannot locate Robert at the moment, so I do not know if his Temple work is done.
There are 3 families of Coultas's in Appleton Le Street, also there might be one in Rillington, both of which are quite close to Malton, so I am not sure who this Mary is. It appears however that her Temple work is done, so I am not too worried at the moment. Jul 2001
Name also shown as Luis Charles and Lois Charles in the IGI.
Had a wife and daughter.
From a letter written in 1893 by William R. Wells and H, believed to Joseph Wells and Annie (Baldwin) Wells, "Lizzy and the children are well, George never writes. News from England not very good. Louis and his wife and daughter well, your aunts Jane and Hannah Maria well, David. Josephs wife and Toms children dead" and "Polly lost two of her children. We send our love to you and your wife and the two fine grandchildren". Later in the letter, "think them fine boys".
Born at home 11/23/1844, Union Passage, Bradford.
Date also incorrectly shown as 11/25/1844 on some records.
The following extract from a letter is by Herbert's Aunt Louisa Elizabeth, who appears not to have moved over to the states. Does this suggest that Herbert was not alive in 1893???......
!From a letter written in 1893, believed to Joseph Wells and Annie(Baldwin) Wells, "Lizzy and the children are well, George neverwrites. News from England not very good. Louis and his wife anddaughter well, your aunts Jane and Hannah Maria well, David. Joseph's wife and Toms children dead" and "Polly lost two of her children. We send our love to you and your wife and the two fine grandchildren". Later in the letter, "think them fine boys".
26 Dec 2002 : From Dick Wells: This does seem promising!
I revisited the IGI looking at any new records for our elusive ancestors. Four new records (to me) were found.
Anne (Reid), b 8/1/1790 Old Greyfriars, Midothian, Scotland
Anne Reid, b abt 1790 Covington, Lanark, Scotland
Ann Reed, b 9/26/1785 Macroom, Cork, Ireland
and the most promising of
Ann Reade, b abt 1793, Diocese of Ossory, Leinster, Ireland, married George Wells 1814 at the same place.
Nothing interesting was found for Mary or Mary Ann. Since all the birth records for the children show her name as Ann or Anne, the Mary part may be a nickname.
Remember, William reported his mother on different census as being born in Scotland once, and twice in Ireland.
A question - during which UK census are parents birth locations shown? 1881 does not appear to include this info. Hopefully, one or more will, and that some of William's siblings are still living at that time.
Dick
!Research summary from Carolyn Royce:
Hi Brian, Let's try embedding the research summaries.
Here goes...WELLS RESEARCH SUMMARY
done by Carolyn Royce
British Censuses:
1841
City of York, parish of St. Crux,
residence, Globe Yard, the Shambles;
Ann Wells, head of house, Widow, age 55, Independent, born in Ireland.
William Wells , Son, age 20, baker, born in York.
Joseph Wells, Son, age 10 , born in York.1851
City of York, parish of ?
Residence, 4 Moors Yard;
Ann Wells, head of house, widow, age 70, born in Ireland.Nearby at Globe Yard, Pavement;
Samuel Wells age 21, shopman.
(William and wife Henrietta are in Bradford/East in 1851& 1861 Censuses)1861
City of York, parish of St. Saviour & St. Crux,
Ann Wells not found, not all parishes checked.{I am truncating information from vital records, I
believe you have it all in a GEDCOM, if not tell me
and I will send it again)Parish Registers, baptisms:
children of George Wells, mother as listed (there is
confusion here because Ann is a nickname for Hannah as
well as short for Mary Ann. I have not yet determined
when children with Hannah left off and children with
Mary Ann began) They were all christened in the city
of York, but some in different parishes.child of George Wells and Hannah Eadon:
1801 James, St. Sampson’s, died in 1802child of George Wells, mother Ann (I can’t be certain
if this child is of George and Hannah or of George and
Mary Ann)
1809 William, All Saint’s, died 1810children of George Wells , mother Ann (I believe these
all to be of George and Mary Ann)
1815 James, Holy Trinity King’s Court, married Sarah
Fell Turner
1817 David, St. Sampson’s
1819 William, All Saint’s Pavement, married Henrietta
Fell, immigrated to Utah, Dick and Carolyn’s ancestor
1821 Thomas, All Saint’s Pavement, Brian’s ancestor
1823 Elizabeth, St. Crux, died 1824
1825 Alice, St. Crux, died 1829
1827 Mary Ann Wells, St. Crux, died 1830
1830 Joseph Wells, St. CruxMarriages (information gathered from indexes as well
as Parish Registers):1801 George Wells, whitesmith and Hannah Eaden,
(daughter of William Eaden, farmer of
Allerton-Mauliver) St. Sampson’s, York
I am assuming as of yet that this is the same George
that married Mary Ann. He is a whitesmith but I have
not yet found a marriage record for George and Mary
Ann Reed. I also need proof that Hannah died sometime
between 1801 and 1819. I have been looking for both
marriage and death.Parish Registers, burial records:
1830 George Wells, St. Crux, age 50, residence, Lady
Peckitt’s Yard, this would make his year of birth
around 1780. Assuming this is the George that married
Mary Ann Reed. Possible parents: William Wells
married Sarah Brooks 18 May 1780 Pateley Bridge.
Christening in Pateley Bridge; 7 Oct 1781 George, son
of William. This certainly is not all proof, but this
is where I am so far.I have pieced together further back by 2 or 3
generations, but can’t verify that information. I
still have a few more leads to check. I am looking
into the naturalization of William Wells in Salt Lake.
I will go back to searching Parish Registers for
burials. I will check more marriage indexes. Being
that the Wells lived in “The Shambles” of York, a
rather poor area, I am doubting there are wills but I
will check. There might also be Poor Law indexes
and/or Settlement Papers for York.I would like more information on the George Wells
christened 1786 in Bedern to William Wells and Hannah
Walker. Is there information about occupations or
residences.There are many George’s and William’s and Ann’s
floating around. I think that if we work together, we
can figure out who fits where. Foremost, I would like
to find marriage information for George Wells and Mary
Ann Reed. It is not found in Boyd’s marriage index,
the IGI or marriage index for city of York. They
could have been married in Ireland or even Glascow, as
I later on find evidence that Mary Ann was in Glascow,
Scotland at one time.
GEORGE WELLSWhat does add up:
Brian has a marriage certificate for his ancestor,
Thomas Wells. It lists George Wells occupation
Whitesmith as father of Thomas1780 Marriage, Pateley Bridge, William Wells of York
to Sarah Brooks
1781 Christening, Pateley Bridge, George Wells son of
William Wells, {occupation} Cooper
1786-1794 children of William Wells, Cooper and Sarah
christened and buried in Holy Trinity King's Court
parish, YorkApprenticeship record: "Wells, George son of William
Wells of the city of York, {occupation:} Cooper.
Apprentice to Thomas Bradley, Whitesmith of the said
city by Indre (Indenture) dated 12 Jun 1794 by order
of a house."
The George christened 1781 in Pateley Bridge to
William Wells, would have been around age 14. The
average age for apprenticeships. Average
apprenticeships were 7 years. It would be 1801 when
George finished, he would have been age 21, old enough
to marry Hannah Eadons.George Wells married Hannah Eadons, St. Sampson's
parish, city of York, year 1801, occupation for George
on marriage entry is; WhitesmithFirst child of George and Hannah is christened in St.
Sampson's parish, city of York, year 1801. George is
listed as Whitesmith. Parish register lists George's
father as William Wells, occupation; CooperWHAT ABOUT THE MATERNAL LINE, SOED IT GIVE ANY INFORMATION THERE ABOUT THE MOTHERS LINE???
1822 Directory of the City of York: George Wells,
Whitesmith, Leopard Yard, PavementI believe that this is all supporting evidence that
this is our George Wells.What doesn't add up:
So far, no marriage record of George Wells and Mary
Ann Reed.
No proof , yet, that Hannah died so that George could
marry Mary Ann.
The burial entry for George Wells, died 1830, doesn't
give his Occupation.
George Wells christened in Bedern in 1786, would be
only 15 in 1801 and could not be the one who married
Hannah Eadens.
It is possible that George Wells christened in 1786
married Mary Ann Reed later than 1801, but this George
(1786) appears to be a Flour dealer and not a
Whitesmith
Is Ann in Parish Registers, Hannah or Mary Ann
The parishes in which George and Mary Ann were likeley
to have married in are extracted in the IGI, but their
marriage isn't in the IGI.
There is an index to marriages in all the parishes of
the City of York for the time period, George and Mary
Ann are not together
George and Mary Ann are not in Boyd's marriage index
for York, Faculty Office or Vicar General indexes.
(There are other indexes, not all have been checked.)OTHER WELLS IN YORK
1822 Directory City of York: George Wells, flour dlr,
Walmgate also William Wells, Tailor, Goodramgate
Marriage of William Wells to Hannah Walker, William's
occupation is Tailor
1822 burial of William Wells in Holy Trinity
Goodramgate
!CLUES ON MARY ANN REEDReed seems to be her maiden name, William uses it as a
middle name when he applies for citizenship in UtahAnn Wells reports that she was born in Ireland on both
1841 and 1851 Censuses.Her son William reports in Utah Census 1900 that his
mother was born in ScotlandWilliam and Henrietta were in Glascow, Scotland for a
brief period 1858 to 1859 (perhaps Ann had moved
there) their records were found in LDS membership for
Catton (or Calton) parish, Lanark. Many Irish moved
to Scotland during famine. Scotland and Yorkshire are
close in proximity. Mary Ann could have been born in
Ireland, then moved with her family to Scotland then
down to Yorkshire.There are a few Reeds in the same parishes as the
Wells at the same time period. There are marriages
the same time period as Mary Ann would have married.
There is a James Reed buried in York1816 at age 71,
old enough to be Mary Ann's father.My questions: Where is it ever recorded or stated
that Mary Ann Reed is William & Thomas' mother's given
name? Was she christened as Mary or Ann? Did she
marry as Mary Ann or Ann or even Mary? Did she marry
before she married George Wells?Research still to do: Follow possible siblings to
Mary Ann Reed in the 1841-1871 Censuses, see if they
report the town where they were born.
Check all other possible marriage indexes for York
area and time period.
Find a marriage for a George Wells, flour dealer in
York about 1807-1840
!Notes from Brian Dickinson
According to the wedding certificate of his son Thomas, George was a Whitesmith.There is a George Wells born to a William Wells and his wife Hannah, Christened in the parish of Bedern, York. In the nearby churchyard of Holy Trinity Goodramgate, York, is the following inscription from a Gravestone:
William Wells Died 29 Aug 1822 aged 63 (? or 65) yrs (Henceborn abt 1757)
Also Hannah, Widow of William who died 21 Jul 1846 aged 79 Yrs. (Henceborn 1765)The Christening of George to William and Hannah occured in 1786, which would be the perfect t ime. The Birth dates from the gravestone of William and Hannah would have no problem fitting in either.
According to Janet Wells Caywood of York, this is the ancestry of the above possiblilty:
George son of William Wells, and Sarah, married, Ann Eden, who is the daugher of William Eden and Elizabeth. George and Ann had 2 sons:
William Chr 27 july 1809, at All Saints Pavement, York.
James, Chr 24 Nov 1801, at St Sampson's, York.Source Royce has DOB about 1780.
Bedern areaFrom Dick Wells:Wells Mystery
Here are 2 census records, that appear to be George & Ann (Mary Ann)'s son David and family. Both David and Mary Ann appear to be the correct ages, but Mary Ann reports Leeds, not York for her birth place.
It is interesting that they are for houses next to each other. Also, both men (David's) are Tin Plate Workers.
A search of the IGI for the children did not yeild any information. Neither did a search on the granddaughter.
Anybody have any thoughts?
DickDwelling: 6 Regents Court
Census Place: Holy Trinity, Kingston-upon-Hull, York, England
Source: FHL Film 1342153 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 4773 Folio 66 Page 7
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
David WELLS M 63 M York, York, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Tin Plate Worker
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Dwelling: 8 Regents Court
Census Place: Holy Trinity, Kingston-upon-Hull, York, England
Source: FHL Film 1342153 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 4773 Folio 66 Page 7
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Mary Ann WELLS M 55 F Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Rel: Head
David WELLS U 19 M York, York, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Tin Plate Worker
Harriet WELLS 14 F York, York, England
Rel: Daur
Florence RANDER 7 F Leeds, York, England
Rel: Grand DaurPerhaps this would make sense if they owned two buidings, one of which was home, and the other the workplace??
Surname spelling variation of Eadon and Eden
!1801 George Wells, whitesmith and Hannah Eaden,
(daughter of William Eaden, farmer of
Allerton-Mauliver) St. Sampson’s, York
I am assuming as of yet that this is the same George
that married Mary Ann. He is a whitesmith but I have
not yet found a marriage record for George and Mary
Ann Reed. I also need proof that Hannah died sometime
between 1801 and 1819. I have been looking for both
marriage and death.
Source Dickinson reports the Christening as 11/24/1801 at St. Sampson
All Saints Pavement
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