James was a Land Agent.
An emaill from Paul Bulmer about the ancestry of this Thomas Bulmer:
Hi Brian Sorry not to have responded sooner, so busy at work at the moment havn,t had time to do much else. Been away to Durham and London this week so feeling a bit shattered. Will let you have details soon.Marrick was a lead mining village and the Bulmer family lived there, on and off, for some time. Although they had a home there the mines were often "let out" to others to mine and the Bulmer family received a share of the profits without doing any actual work. The family also had other homes throughout the area, in Wilton etc.
A lot of problems with Marrick through the years, the land passed to various people in an attempt to avoid fines levied by the King in the hope that it would be returned to the family in due course. However, by about the early 17 hundreds the remaining land was finally sold and the family (what remained of them at Marrick) moved away. Some went to Startforth, some to York and in due course, some to the Rothwell area. By this time (in the main) the family had reduced from landowners etc to having to work for their livings. In those days the eldest son usually inherited and younger sons etc probably had to make their own way in life.
In the "glory" days of the Bulmer family younger sons would probably have a decent start in life. However, by the 17 hundreds they were probably reduced to Yeoman status and would move from place to place dependent on how they could earn their living. It is amazing just how much a family can change in a couple of generations. (I guess the Maxwell family realise that now!)
I will send details, but it might be better if I post them to you? If you let me have your address I will copy the papers I have. By the way I have a copy of the Irish lady's book, she was called Mary Hobson.I received, following the death of a great aunt, a copy of a old and tatty family tree that showed the decent of my Bulmer family from the Startforth/Marrick area down to me great grandfather in Rothwell. This made my search easier. Not possible to say with absolute certainty that it is totally accurate however, because between 16 and 17 hundreds it becomes hard to find proof. However, the dates and names appear to fit with various sources. Will contact you again soon Regards Paul
!This connection is yet to be proved. Though the dates fit, there appears
!to be evidence which says that these are not the parents of Thomas who
!married Phyllis....Rats!
!I also have a note which states the following:
! Thomas Bulmer Died 6 Aug 1680, Barbara Bulmer, his wife Buried Dec 1670. They were buried in the Friends Burial Ground, Bishophill, York. (Quakers).
!Could this be a possible set of parents?
!Also I have a burial of a Thomas Bulmer, Tailor buried 20 Oct 1699 at St Michael Le Belfrey, York. There is no age given so I cannot tell which Thomas this burial belongs too.
!Also there is a Burial of a Barbara Bulmer 5 May 1660 at St Michael Le Belfrey, York.
There is also a James Bulmer, son of William Bullmer Christened at St Michael Le Belfrey, York, 17 Apr 1676. These are the first few Bulmers mentioned in the registers of St Michael Le Befrey, York, whose records began in 1653.
A possible marriage for William to Eleanor Vasey, 21, from Brompton, on the 13th Aug 1748. The William who married Eleanor was 23, and residing in Newmarket, Cambrdigeshire at the time.
John was given the Fredom of the City of York in the year 1733/4.
He was a Tailor like his Father.
George was given the Freedom of the City of York in the year 1756.
He was a Silk Weaver like his Father.
!His will was proved Jun 1760. A copy is available to be viewed on Microfilm at the Borthwick Institute of Historical Research, York. Part of The History Department of the University of York, which is due to relocate to the Campus of the University sometime in 2000/2001. It was originally filed in a large volume, page number 104 and folio number 412.
Frederick Walter Nicholson-1951
Grave No:99200
!Burial No: 9173 Park D
!He was a Joiner.
I have a note which states that Joseph and his Brother Edwin moved away from York, and set up the Bulmer's Cider firm. The only brother that did not move from York was Andrew, so it must have been Edwin.
He was the 562nd person to be baptised in to the Salem Chapel congregation.
!On the 1871 Census, Joseph was a Scholar, age 14, probably shortly to start his apprenticeship.
!from the 1881 Census:
He was the 626th person to be baptised in to the Salem Chapel congregation.
!On the 1871 Census Andrew was still a scholar.
!From the 1881 Census:-Andrew James Bulmer of 8 Poplar St, Poppleton Rd, York. Made Freeman 3 jun 1893
Labourer.
!Andrew Richard Bulmer of 4 Falkland St, Cromwell Rd, York. Made Freeman 1 Oct 1953. Labourer. He had a daughter; Julie Elizabeth Bulmer Goodwin, who was made a Freeman of York on the 3 oct 1980. She was living at 13 Vanburgh Drive, York and was a clerk by occupation at the time.
!Brian Bulmer of 13 Albany St, York. Made Freeman 30 dec 1963 and was a
Painter.
!Christina Bulmer Anderson of 75 Nunthorpe Rd, York. Made Freeman 3 oct 1980.
Worked as a Cashier in a Bingo Hall.
!Denise Bulmer Tinson of Old School House, Nunburnholme, Yorkshire. Made
Freeman 3 Jun 1983. Housewife.
!Doreen Bulmer Millers of 14, The Knoll, Acomb, York. Made Freeman 22 jun 1984.
Chambermaid.
!Malcolm Bulmer of 4, Clive Grove, Holly Bank, York. Made Freeman 3 oct 1980.
Fitter.
!Maureen Bulmer Price of 4 St Mary's Grove, Osbaldwick, York. Made Freeman 3
Oct 1980. Part Time Clerk.
I have a note written in Feb 1996 which sates that Fanny had a sister called Annie Dalton. She also had a sister called Ginny, who lived in Hull. She apparently married a Mr Tyeor Tie, but I do not know any more at the moment. - 10 Apr 2001.
!Could Fanny's mother's maiden name be Dunning, as her son was called Leslie Dunning Bulmer!?
!From the1881 Census:
! Dwelling: 6 Rusby Place
Census Place: York St Saviour, York, England
Source: FHL Film 1342142 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 4723 Folio 140 Page 7
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Thomas HICK M 47 M York City, York, England
Rel: Head
Occ: General Lab
Elizabeth HICK U 20 F Stockton On Forest, York, England
Rel: Daur
Thomas HICK 13 M Stockton On Forest, York, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Butchers Boy (Errand)
Frances HICK 11 F Murton, York, England
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Jane HICK 9 F York City, York, England
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
James W. ALCOCK U 19 M York City, York, England
Rel: Visitor
Occ: General Lab
Was given the Freedom of the City of York on the 8 Jul 1904.
!He Lived with his Brother William at 46 Hampden St York and was a Groom.
!He was born at 16 Bilton St, York.